6-months baby-boy form Russia: day routing

[Leenkin1]

What happened to the 12 hour night?

Actually I prefer 12-hour night but I’ve been confused and a little bit scared after our conversation yesterday as you said that 12 hours is too much for breast-eating baby. In addition he woke-up yesterday at 8 and didn’t stop his loud and persistent questions till 8.45 even with jingle. So I’ve decided that 11-hour night would be more suitable for the moment and probably we could evaluate to 12-night in future. Today he screamed ones at 7.55 and fell asleep again by himself. I decided to give him his 20-minutes dream and he awoke by himself at 8.15 finally.

Nap 1 is after 3 hours, that is a bit long wake time. Around 2 would probably be better.

Nap to is a bit too close to nap 1 that should have at least 2 hours as well.

OOOPS I’ve mixed up with 1st nap time in my message  In fact it is so:
8.00 – wake-up and breast feeding
9.00 – meal (solid in future, milk now)
10.00 – 11.30 nap at home in the bed (1,5 hour)
12.30 – meal
14.00 – 16.00 nap on the move in stroller (2 hour)

You can’t do any evaluation after only 1 day but I wish you had talked to me before introducing this new schedule.

I wish I could present the new schedule for you first but I had unexpected problems with the Internet yesterday. I really regret

Also I would like to talk about social participation and belly exercise.

And this is really great! Thank you so much on it!!!
Unfortunately he doesn’t like to lie on belly. If I put him he insistently turns on the back. I do not put him on :thumbsup: floor due to concern that he would turn and hit the head. Besides that we have ceramic floor in the kitchen and it’s too cold to lie on it while I’m cooking. Probably I could use the carpet in the kitchen? Your advice would be very appreciated! I desperately want to make him move

I will also think about out-door activities. We used to go to the swim pool before cure. I’ve put it on hold for a while to make our new life real first. What is the right time to come back?

[Leenkin1]

What happened to the 12 hour night?

Actually I prefer 12-hour night but I’ve been confused and a little bit scared after our conversation yesterday as you said that 12 hours is too much for breast-eating baby. In addition he woke-up yesterday at 8 and didn’t stop his loud and persistent questions till 8.45 even with jingle. So I’ve decided that 11-hour night would be more suitable for the moment and probably we could evaluate to 12-night in future. Today he screamed ones at 7.55 and fell asleep again by himself. I decided to give him his 20-minutes dream and he awoke by himself at 8.15 finally.

Nap 1 is after 3 hours, that is a bit long wake time. Around 2 would probably be better.
Nap to is a bit too close to nap 1 that should have at least 2 hours as well.

OOOPS I’ve mixed up with 1st nap time in my message. In fact it is so:
8.00 – wake-up and breast feeding
9.00 – meal (solid in future, milk now)
10.00 – 11.30 nap at home in the bed (1,5 hour)
12.30 – meal
14.00 – 16.00 nap on the move in stroller (2 hour)

You can’t do any evaluation after only 1 day but I wish you had talked to me before introducing this new schedule.

I wish I could present the new schedule for you first but I had unexpected problems with the Internet yesterday. I really regret

Also I would like to talk about social participation and belly exercise.

And this is really great! Thank you so much on it!!!
Unfortunately he doesn’t like to lie on belly. If I put him he insistently turns on the back. I do not put him on :thumbsup: floor due to concern that he would turn and hit the head. Besides that we have ceramic floor in the kitchen and it’s too cold to lie on it while I’m cooking. Probably I could use the carpet in the kitchen? Your advice would be very appreciated! I desperately want to make him move

I will also think about out-door activities. We used to go to the swim pool before cure. I’ve put it on hold for a while to make our new life real first. What is the right time to come back?

[TorsMamma]

Hi,

Then the new schedule is fine, with the naps and all. You can have 11 hour night now for a few weeks and revise after a couple of weeks, this will be fine.

So if he turns around you need to practice the belly exercise with him, this is crucial to their brain and motorskills. Go down on a floor with wood or plastic, no carpet no socks on. And Crawl with him, hold a hand on his back or so so he can’t turn over. Be enthusiastic and sometimes you are on your belly, sometimes putting your hands behind his feet so that he can crawl. He needs at least 5min/10times/day with this, he needs to like the belly position. Sometimes children will scream (not cry that is different) because they charge their lungs with air and they body needs extra oxygen to be able to move. (like heavy weight lifters scream you know)

When you feel secure with the belly position, then have him on the belly in the kitchen tile floor as well.

In Sweden we have a chair called Bumbo, these are great to have on the counter while you cook the food so that they can participate in your usual doings in the kitchen. In the laundry you put him in the laundry pile. Please, please practice the belly position, lots. You will not regret it. If he turns over, practice turning as well. But he needs to crawl diagonally first on his belly for weeks, and then on all four for weeks before he stands up or is placed in a walking chair.

http://www.bumbo.com/

Keep the schedule now for at least 2 weeks before you start changing anything. Good luck!

[LenaK]

Здравствуйте, Лина!
Добро пожаловать на форум Анны! Похоже, что Вы уже получили необходимую помощь и моё вмешательство уже не нужно. Хочу всё же уточнить, что у деток, которые спят 12 часов подряд, аппетит намного лучше, чем у тех, кого кормят по ночам. Это бывает заметно уже на 5-6 день. Именно поэтому Анна рекомендует их прикармливать. Вообще же в Швеции введение пюрешек в 4 месяца это обычное явление.
Если Вы очень боитесь, что молоко станет исчезать, то можно попробовать сцеживаться перед сном, а если выдержите, то и ночью. Я делала именно так и оно того стоило, цельный сон был малышу явно в пользу.

[Leenkin1]

Здравствуйте, Лена! очень рада видеть Вас здесь в Москве я не знаю никого, с кем можно посоветоваться по поводу Курса - а ведь он, похоже, работает (тьфу, тьфу, тьфу, скрещу пальцы и не хочу сглазить).

Да, на данный момент я получила исчерпывающие инструкции и внедряю их в жизнь. меня беспокоит то, что составленное мной дневное расписание не совсем совпадает с желаниями малыша (я только сейчас научилась их видеть!!!). привыкнет ли он к новому? или придется расписание менять? в любом случае пока я настойчиво внедряю свое ...

по поводу ГВ я стала беспокоиться чуть меньше: сцеживаюсь 1 раз ночью, днем кормлю почаще по требованию, со вчерашнего дня стали вводить прикорм.
спасибо!

[Leenkin1]

Dear TorsMamma, please sorry for our Russian – LenaK is Russian mom who lives in Sweden. It seems that she is only person all over the world who speaks Russian and know Anna’s method both

We are moving with cure: nights are good enough but day routing is still the mess. Actually, I’ve only started to notice when he is willing to sleep with the beginning of cure – or thanks to the cure must I say?

And now I have to admit that the schedule I set is not suit to baby. He prefers 1st nap shorter and 2nd earlier I know Anna says that they do not know anything and expect this knowledge from parents but I doubt. What do you think? Should I be persistent and he will cope with new routing? my variant is more suitable for our life

[TorsMamma]

Hi,

You are quite correct we really don't like to "mess around" with the schedule, it is not fair to the child. You need to give the one you have a chance I think. But if you know that you have one that will forfill his needs 100% you can change one last time but know that you are stating things over, so you really can't evaluate until more than 2 weeks have passed.

So have a really good thinking and think things through so that you are 100% sure and can give this to your child; assertive and calm. Never looking back again, only looking forward.

Good luck.

No problem with the Russian, I asked Lena to assist here with the cultural difference.

Thanks Lena!

[Leenkin1]

Thanks to Lena, you all and God - I'm really happy to find this Anna's forum and followers [-o<
I will continue with new routing for a while and observe.
I've also bought the FTLOC and looking forward to read it but not sure my English is enough to it
We've already started belly exercises. He is not delighted a lot but I'm more persistent

As this forum is about children care in common could you please also give an advice - should I do something with finger chewing in his age? What can I do?

[Leenkin1]

I've just noticed that he is falling asleep with finger chewing - it's much better then early but still is not so good
Let me clarify one thing with the day routing: according to my schedule boy should sleep 1,5 - 3 - 0,45 but usually he wakes up after 45 minutes in his bed or in the stroller on the move. What should I do in such situations? Usually I keep coming with jingle till the right time but it doesn't help a lot - He is making a raw untile I take him from his bed

[TorsMamma]

Hi and welcome back,

About the chewing fingers. My son sucked his thumb until he was 4.5 years old.

So first you have a cuddle toy or rag that they use when going to sleep. So the connection they do is cuddle rag + fingers are ok. But during wake time you make sure the hands are busy with other things. Wooden spoon is good when in the kitchen, toys, snacks like corn doodles, crisps and so on. So during the wake time you make sure the hands are in use with better things.

Then when he goes to sleep you can’t control the fingers sorry to say. BUT, as the FTLOC describes when the child is around 4 you talk and discuss that now he is going to be a BIG boy and won’t need his fingers any more. You take the cuddle toy away which is connected to the fingers and in our case we put a band-aid on the thumb so that he would remember if he forgot during the night. Sucking their fingers is a way to calm themselves down and is usually a good thing.

When I from the beginning gave you a 6 month old schedule I had just taken the 45 min wakeup into consideration since this is a common problem. Which is why I gave you only one nap to work with.

If you are out walking you just keep walking, If you are at home in bed you jingle and use the tools to get him to fall back to sleep.

The days and naps usually takes a little bit more time and patience than the nights. So try working with your goal in mind.

Also I would just like to say that usually small children will sleep longer and better on their stomach (always using an apnea alarm), to me it sounds like he sleeps on his back. It could help to turn him over. Just a thought.

Good luck

[Leenkin1]

Dear TorsMamma, Thank you for your wisdom
as I understood cuddle toy should be only associated with sleeps not to chew it instead of finger, correct?
As for day schedule I settled 45 min sleep in the evening to have ability to travel and have a short sleep on the way. I could be very patient and persistent but only need to know that this is possible - to longer his naps - is it? Do you know such examples?

[Leenkin1]

He sleeps on his side. I'd like to put him on the stomach but he hate this position for the moment. We've started with belly exercises and it seems that stomach position become a little bit more suitable for him. I'm looking forward to turn him in short time

[TorsMamma]

Let me clarify one thing with the day routing: according to my schedule boy should sleep 1,5 - 3 - 0,45 but usually he wakes up after 45 minutes in his bed or in the stroller on the move. What should I do in such situations? Usually I keep coming with jingle till the right time but it doesn't help a lot - He is making a raw untile I take him from his bed

So lets clarify things here:

Is he sleeping 11 hour night?

and then you have 3 naps, 1,5 hour+3 hours+45 min. Then you have 16,15 hours of sleep. That is too much for a 6 month old.

Please review my initial answers in the thread regarding hours of sleep.

If you want you can have 11 hours night and then 1,5+2+45 (or 20 min) then you have 15,15 hours which is a bit over and with a 20 min nap you would have 14,50 a bit under. You decide. But PLEASE don't keep changing the schedule, this is not good for the child. [-o<

[Leenkin1]

Yes he sleeps 11-hour night, thanks Anna [-o<
We have 3 naps: 1,5 + 2 + 0,45 which means 5,15 overall. As he turn his 6 month only the day after tomorrow I've decided the more sleep is better. I promise to be stable for 2 weeks at least and even more if you suppose that it is possible to implement such schedule

[Leenkin1]

Sorry for confusing you by the lack of attention ((((